greekmangeek: OMEGALucifer....yeah what i was thinking
about 1 month ago
OMEGALucifer: I really like dj_leethol's question as rhetorical as it is. I think poor people will be part of the singularity later than the rich, but not much later. Only 130 years ago only the rich rode trains, and only 60 years ago only the rich flew in aircraft. (they still do), but almost every human being will have clean water to drink in 25 years from now. Polio and Smallpox is irradicated from most of the earth. Malaria and sleeping sickness are next. One day very shortly (in cultural historical terms) even death in childbirth will be only read about. It takes a very wealthy planet to achieve the most fundamental of what we in the very rich Northwestern Part of the world refer to as "human rights".
It is people like Kurzweil and Walt Disney that promote human imagination, which is arguable our greatest strength as a species. But Kurzweil like Edison is more than just an Imagineer, they were both major inventors who bring real change. They have an intrinisic ability to visualize what they themselves and others are thinking from both a luminary and darkside of technical innovation. If anything, people like Kurzweil need to be thanked for the ability to give the rest of us the ability to guide the political, ethical, and spirtual discussions of managing the science prior to us attemting to debate the ethics after certain events occur. A great example is the cloned sheep named Dolly. I don't know and do not know if anyone ever has attempted to clone a human but Dolly helped make it very clear where the majority of the world's scientific nations stood on this type of work.
I invite everyone to look at this month's National Geographic to see just how far we are to engineering "augmentation" of human biology with man made science. Sight for the blind, artificial limbs for veterans of Iraq and automobile accidents. The engineers are even discussing artificial skin to be able to interact with the nervous system. I point this out because Kurzweil's book is almost 5 years old. Even in my own technical field i realized 20 years ago that most if not all of the science was already available and understood. What occured to me then was not the "stand alone" feats, it is the individual or organization that integrates all of the existing technologies together that makes the significant exponential movement.
So, all short as dj_leethol post is, it promotes and gives all of us the opportunity to weigh in and guide discussion because the pace and rate of discoverty is faster than any government can control, regulate or stop. We need to understand as a species that the genie is out of the bottle, but we still have the wherewithall to direct the force and influence whether or not we are apart of the planning of the
about 1 month ago
dj_leethol: will poor people be part of the singularity too?
2 months ago
anonymous: Creative minds such as RK are to be admired, he’s a visionary and lives it. The subject matter is simply a reality in an infinite sea of realities.
As curious minds explore the mind/body relationship and attempt to develop a technology that interfaces with is in my opinion chasing the Dragons tail.
H.U.M.A.N. intelligence that we are observing are mere shadows of a multidimensional intelligence dancing about that notices we are observing it and mirrors back to us only at the level of wisdom we are capable of experiencing! Put that in your Neuro Nano pipe and smoke it!
10 months ago
anonymous: He’s still so arrogant and naive, this Ray... Trapped. Even IF things ever comes to pass the way he predicts, it will be for those still obsessed with the material world while at the same time trying to escape it, not for those that have naturally (’spiritually’, for lack of a better word) grown and evolved.
10 months ago
anonymous: Man, I really enjoy that guy’s thoughts. Its kind of out there, but what current tech reality wouldn’t sound out there to people in the past?I disagree with the idea that computers will fit in a blood cell though, its like the 50s prediction that we would be wandering around space in 2009. Physical limits prevent us, and physical limits prevent us from making computers much smaller than they are now, excepting deep changes in our concepts of computation, such as nano-scale devices would require.
10 months ago
Mushi: check out this year TED talk on nanotechnology... that stuff is working NOW, just in a more basic scale, you cant ask the machine "give me the 400.000 first numbers of pi" but you can program it so it pokes x thing every n time
8 months ago
anonymous: There will be huge paradigm shifts in the next decade, way more than in his one. This singularity is not a single event but a pile up/mash up of paradigm shifts. You may notice a steady increase in updates and patches. One day you will have updates and patches everywhere. The singularity comes at the moment of seemless continuous improvement everywhere. That’s where the fun begins.
10 months ago
anonymous: ray, you’re perceptibly older despite your supplements, man
10 months ago
Mushi: that depends, do you know how he looked when he started the treatment?
anonymous: Most people I speak to still think the best technology is like that from 1990. They are gonna be really shocked when this stuff comes together.
anonymous: Whoa! Thanks Jennifer. On my way to look this up right now!
11 months ago
anonymous: I think most of the comments so far, particularly the more recent ones, miss the finer point of the demonstration: psychological masquerading on a wide-spread social scale, and with sufficient ’real-world’ credibility to fool no only those with whom you interact, but yourself as well. Fascinating!
anonymous: Morgellons also happened to emerge around the same time as wide spread meth use. Spooky huh??
11 months ago
anonymous: Bio-hacking has already happened folks.
It is evident in the Emergent Disease Morgellons.
Morgellons has been validated by Randy Wymore ,
University of Oklahoma along with others.
Morgellons fibers melt at about 1400 hundred degress and match nothing know in the F.B.I. database.
These fibers grow subcataneously and emerge trough unbroken skin.
The premptive wiring is now occuring so man will be ready for singularity .
Check out the picture on lymebusters.
Jennifer Miracle
11 months ago
anonymous: i dont think that im down for having computers in my blood system. i think that the fact human life is finite make it precious, to make it never ending is to cheapen it.
11 months ago
anonymous: Speaking of the electrode artist, they just put up an article about this dude. Here
->
www.viceland.com/int/v16n4/htdocs/a-twitch-in-time-80<br>2.php<br>
11 months ago
anonymous: Please tell me we will be able to walk through walls!
11 months ago
anonymous: haha his twitching is crazy, it reminds me of the electrode face dancing. you should look it up on youtube. hilarious.
You must be registered to post.
Login or register here
greekmangeek: OMEGALucifer....yeah what i was thinking
about 1 month ago
OMEGALucifer: I really like dj_leethol's question as rhetorical as it is. I think poor people will be part of the singularity later than the rich, but not much later. Only 130 years ago only the rich rode trains, and only 60 years ago only the rich flew in aircraft. (they still do), but almost every human being will have clean water to drink in 25 years from now. Polio and Smallpox is irradicated from most of the earth. Malaria and sleeping sickness are next. One day very shortly (in cultural historical terms) even death in childbirth will be only read about. It takes a very wealthy planet to achieve the most fundamental of what we in the very rich Northwestern Part of the world refer to as "human rights". It is people like Kurzweil and Walt Disney that promote human imagination, which is arguable our greatest strength as a species. But Kurzweil like Edison is more than just an Imagineer, they were both major inventors who bring real change. They have an intrinisic ability to visualize what they themselves and others are thinking from both a luminary and darkside of technical innovation. If anything, people like Kurzweil need to be thanked for the ability to give the rest of us the ability to guide the political, ethical, and spirtual discussions of managing the science prior to us attemting to debate the ethics after certain events occur. A great example is the cloned sheep named Dolly. I don't know and do not know if anyone ever has attempted to clone a human but Dolly helped make it very clear where the majority of the world's scientific nations stood on this type of work. I invite everyone to look at this month's National Geographic to see just how far we are to engineering "augmentation" of human biology with man made science. Sight for the blind, artificial limbs for veterans of Iraq and automobile accidents. The engineers are even discussing artificial skin to be able to interact with the nervous system. I point this out because Kurzweil's book is almost 5 years old. Even in my own technical field i realized 20 years ago that most if not all of the science was already available and understood. What occured to me then was not the "stand alone" feats, it is the individual or organization that integrates all of the existing technologies together that makes the significant exponential movement. So, all short as dj_leethol post is, it promotes and gives all of us the opportunity to weigh in and guide discussion because the pace and rate of discoverty is faster than any government can control, regulate or stop. We need to understand as a species that the genie is out of the bottle, but we still have the wherewithall to direct the force and influence whether or not we are apart of the planning of the
about 1 month ago
dj_leethol: will poor people be part of the singularity too?
2 months ago
anonymous: Creative minds such as RK are to be admired, he’s a visionary and lives it. The subject matter is simply a reality in an infinite sea of realities. As curious minds explore the mind/body relationship and attempt to develop a technology that interfaces with is in my opinion chasing the Dragons tail. H.U.M.A.N. intelligence that we are observing are mere shadows of a multidimensional intelligence dancing about that notices we are observing it and mirrors back to us only at the level of wisdom we are capable of experiencing! Put that in your Neuro Nano pipe and smoke it!
10 months ago
anonymous: He’s still so arrogant and naive, this Ray... Trapped. Even IF things ever comes to pass the way he predicts, it will be for those still obsessed with the material world while at the same time trying to escape it, not for those that have naturally (’spiritually’, for lack of a better word) grown and evolved.
10 months ago
anonymous: Man, I really enjoy that guy’s thoughts. Its kind of out there, but what current tech reality wouldn’t sound out there to people in the past?I disagree with the idea that computers will fit in a blood cell though, its like the 50s prediction that we would be wandering around space in 2009. Physical limits prevent us, and physical limits prevent us from making computers much smaller than they are now, excepting deep changes in our concepts of computation, such as nano-scale devices would require.
10 months ago
Mushi: check out this year TED talk on nanotechnology... that stuff is working NOW, just in a more basic scale, you cant ask the machine "give me the 400.000 first numbers of pi" but you can program it so it pokes x thing every n time
8 months ago
anonymous: There will be huge paradigm shifts in the next decade, way more than in his one. This singularity is not a single event but a pile up/mash up of paradigm shifts. You may notice a steady increase in updates and patches. One day you will have updates and patches everywhere. The singularity comes at the moment of seemless continuous improvement everywhere. That’s where the fun begins.
10 months ago
anonymous: ray, you’re perceptibly older despite your supplements, man
10 months ago
Mushi: that depends, do you know how he looked when he started the treatment?
8 months ago
anonymous: Are we not men: we are devo
10 months ago
anonymous: Most people I speak to still think the best technology is like that from 1990. They are gonna be really shocked when this stuff comes together.
10 months ago
anonymous: 30 Years?? But I want my toaster now!
11 months ago
anonymous: Whoa! Thanks Jennifer. On my way to look this up right now!
11 months ago
anonymous: I think most of the comments so far, particularly the more recent ones, miss the finer point of the demonstration: psychological masquerading on a wide-spread social scale, and with sufficient ’real-world’ credibility to fool no only those with whom you interact, but yourself as well. Fascinating!
11 months ago
anonymous: bobby digital
11 months ago
anonymous: Morgellons also happened to emerge around the same time as wide spread meth use. Spooky huh??
11 months ago
anonymous: Bio-hacking has already happened folks. It is evident in the Emergent Disease Morgellons. Morgellons has been validated by Randy Wymore , University of Oklahoma along with others. Morgellons fibers melt at about 1400 hundred degress and match nothing know in the F.B.I. database. These fibers grow subcataneously and emerge trough unbroken skin. The premptive wiring is now occuring so man will be ready for singularity . Check out the picture on lymebusters. Jennifer Miracle
11 months ago
anonymous: i dont think that im down for having computers in my blood system. i think that the fact human life is finite make it precious, to make it never ending is to cheapen it.
11 months ago
anonymous: Speaking of the electrode artist, they just put up an article about this dude. Here -> www.viceland.com/int/v16n4/htdocs/a-twitch-in-time-80<br>2.php<br>
11 months ago
anonymous: Please tell me we will be able to walk through walls!
11 months ago
anonymous: haha his twitching is crazy, it reminds me of the electrode face dancing. you should look it up on youtube. hilarious.
11 months ago